tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4894466057448828481.post5845099432601860756..comments2023-12-31T22:56:27.920+02:00Comments on On comms design: Getting a job in advertisingBogdana Butnarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02096720247480363854noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4894466057448828481.post-55577476922584255572008-07-28T18:19:00.000+03:002008-07-28T18:19:00.000+03:00i think you are quite wrong in asking for the bac...i think you are quite wrong in asking for the background. At my previous job there were 2 girls, both of them graduates from art school, both art directors, both lame. And if you check the background of the best known advertisers, you won't find much art, marketing or pr studies. you will find much passion and a lot of work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4894466057448828481.post-52130376426868873552008-01-31T10:35:00.000+02:002008-01-31T10:35:00.000+02:00I have read this article by curiosity and as i was...I have read this article by curiosity and as i was reading it i was realising that there`s people out there who REALLY think but i still see no solution, no action... just conclusions. Have i missed anything? I mean, ok, there are enough people who realised what`s wrong, so gather and start doing something really fast cuz right now, in this moment i see the fresh hired accountant watching tuning bulls@#t on youtube, listening to Akon and eating shaorma at the same time ... for the last 3 months :)) and it`s not funny! Action!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4894466057448828481.post-55723320516846706762008-01-24T13:18:00.000+02:002008-01-24T13:18:00.000+02:00Imho, you should try testing people who apply for ...Imho, you should try testing people who apply for a job. Give them a test project to work on (it could even be a minor project your team's working on, if you have reason to believe the person is actually good) and hire them after you see the finished product. Second, if word gets out that your hiring criteria are high, people won't flock to you, but the ones that will come will have "the right stuff". That's basically how programming shops do it in the more enlightened parts of our world. Really weeds out people who just say they're good from people who actually are good.horia314https://www.blogger.com/profile/12405514858485175201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4894466057448828481.post-40846764634686493072008-01-24T10:42:00.000+02:002008-01-24T10:42:00.000+02:00who is here to blame? the young guns or the team l...who is here to blame? the young guns or the team leaders?<BR/>As a junior of course you have no work experience (although appropriate education should be on your CV), but if you don't get the right guidance/coaching from your team leader then you are stuck and you don't learn anything. Oh, you learn that you have to stay at work on a daily basis until 10PM, because the deadlines are tight (read: bad management).<BR/>You are kinda right Bogdana, maybe the juniors don't have the right attitude towards work, but with the wrong kind of leadership (or no leadership whatsoever) they won't get any better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4894466057448828481.post-39727502426606657352008-01-17T13:27:00.000+02:002008-01-17T13:27:00.000+02:00We share the exact same problem in software develo...We share the exact same problem in software development.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4894466057448828481.post-44326309689149742582007-12-28T03:59:00.000+02:002007-12-28T03:59:00.000+02:00You're definetly right, Bogdana... but these are s...You're definetly right, Bogdana... but these are still general opinions.<BR/>I've been asked many times what should a young graduate do in order to get a job. And by job I specifficaly mean junior copy, art exec or (my case) strategic rookie? Let's say you're determined, you know you're place but you also know what you're able to do, you label and position yourself very well... but still you're miles away from performing. <BR/>I say it's a HR problem to begin with... evaluating the appliant shouldn't be that shallow. And hireing the overdemanding newbie is lowering the team's value. <BR/>And it's also our special romanian skill of always knowing everything. I mean, anyone can advertise, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com